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[CA] How do you turn a temporary custody order into a permanent one by agreement?

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To vacate the July court hearing and make your temporary order permanent without getting tricked by his lawyer, you must use a specific legal document called a Stipulation and Order. Because you are representing yourself against an aggressive lawyer, you must maintain total control over the paperwork.

  1. Draft the Agreement Yourself
    Do not let his lawyer draft the agreement. Since you want the temporary order to become permanent, you do not need to write new, complex legal language. You can copy the exact text from your current temporary order. The Document Name: In Southern California, this is typically titled “Stipulation and Order to Make Existing Temporary Custody, Visitation, and Child Support Orders Permanent.” (California also offers an optional Judicial Council form for this purpose, Form FL-355, Stipulation and Order for Custody and/or Visitation of Children.) The Magic Language: Write a clear, short sentence: “The parties stipulate and agree that the Temporary Orders issued by this Court on [Date of Temporary Order] regarding legal custody, physical custody, visitation, and child support shall become the Permanent Orders of this Court.” Attach the Old Order: Physically attach a copy of your current temporary order to this new document as “Exhibit A.” State in your text: “The terms of said order, attached hereto as Exhibit A, are incorporated into this Stipulation as if fully set forth herein.” This completely eliminates the risk of his lawyer hiding “fine print” or changing the rules about supervised visits.
  2. Protect Your Specific Conditions
    If you do choose to type out the specific terms instead of attaching the old order, ensure these exact details are explicitly stated: Legal Custody: “Sole Legal Custody to Mother.” Physical Custody: “Sole Physical Custody to Mother.”
    Visitation: “Father’s visitation shall remain 100% professionally supervised at a professional visitation center, at Father’s sole expense.” (See Cal. Family Code § 3200.5 on professional supervised visitation providers.)
    Child Support: Explicitly state the amount remains $350/month, or state that the parties agree to resolve the reassessment at a later date so it doesn’t hold up this custody agreement. (Stipulated child support agreements must include certain declarations under Cal. Family Code § 4065.)
  3. How to Sign and File (The Process)
    To officially cancel (vacate) your July court date, the judge must sign your agreement. Follow these steps: Signatures: You and your ex must sign and date the Stipulation. His lawyer will also need to sign it. Filing: Take the signed document to the court clerk’s office where your case is filed. You will file it as a “Stipulation and Order.” You will pay a filing fee (unless you have an active fee waiver). The Judge’s Signature: The clerk will pass the document to your family law judge. Once the judge signs it, it becomes an official, permanent court order. (California courts consider the child’s best interest when approving custody orders under Cal. Family Code § 3011. On when a stipulated custody order is treated as a final custody determination, see Montenegro v. Diaz (2001) 26 Cal.4th 249.) Vacating the Hearing: Once the judge signs the order, the court clerk will automatically cancel the July hearing because the issues have been resolved. Do not skip your July court date until you have a copy of this document signed by the judge.
  4. Handling the Lawyer’s Push
    If his lawyer insists on drafting the document, do not sign it on the spot. Take it home. Read it line by line against your temporary order. Look out for sneaky words like “reasonable visitation” (which means unsupervised) or changes to who pays for the supervision. If anything looks different, refuse to sign it and tell them you will let the judge decide in July. Since your daughter turns 18 in 21 months, the status quo is heavily on your side.

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I have a temporary custody agreement. I verbally agreed in court to make it the permanent agreement. How do I do that?

Lexi

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I understand that navigating custody agreements can be challenging. Have you already filed any paperwork to formalize the change from temporary to permanent custody?

No.

Lexi

Lexi, Chatbot

What specific concerns or issues do you have regarding the transition to a permanent custody agreement?

I don’t trust his lawyer to not put in some fine print that would undermine everything in the temporary order. (He is the type of lawyer that gives good lawyers a bad name.)

Lexi

Lexi, Chatbot

Is there anything else the Family Lawyer should know before I connect you? Rest assured they’ll be able to help with your custody agreement.

No.

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

Thanks for your new question. I’m an attorney with many years of experience. I understand you’re dealing with a situation involving transitioning a temporary custody agreement to a permanent one. Could you share more about any legal steps you’ve considered or taken so far?

This case has been active since 2015! We verbally agreed that the temporary order for custody needs to be made permanent. If we do not settle, then I’ll go to court in July. I’m fine settling as long as I know his lawyer is not going to pull a fast one (as I do not speak the lawyer language). I do not know what information you need to help, but I will provide everything you need!

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

Do you currently have a lawyer representing you in this custody case?

No. I did, but we ran into some financial hardships. My ex was playing “dodge the responsibility” and it was costing too much to justify the retainer. I am representing myself now. And his lawyer has a reputation for being a bully (the kindest word I could say).

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

Got it, thanks for sharing that. Could you tell me more about the terms of the current temporary custody agreement? What does it specify regarding custody and visitation?

I would be happy to send the actual order, but briefly, I have sole legal and about 99% physical custody. He is allowed to call her three times a week. He can see her, but it has to be professionally supervised at an actual visitation center (100% at his expense). He has not bothered to arrange that in the two or so years since he was granted it. He’s required to pay a whole $350/month in child support but requested a reassessment because that was WAY too much. I provided everything his lawyer requested for the reassessment, but his lawyer said I did not (this is question number 2 for you).

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

Thanks for explaining the situation. It sounds like you’ve been handling a lot on your own. We’ll definitely address your concerns about the reassessment and ensure you’re prepared for any steps ahead. Let’s work through this together.

Thank you!!

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

Welcome. Based on your situation, there are several legal arguments and considerations in custody and child support cases that could potentially support your case.

In custody cases, the court’s primary concern is the best interest of the child. This includes factors like the child’s safety, stability, and the ability of each parent to meet the child’s needs. Since you have sole legal and almost full physical custody, the court will likely consider the current arrangement’s stability and the child’s well-being.

Regarding child support, the amount is typically determined based on the non-custodial parent’s income and the child’s needs. If your ex is seeking a reassessment, he must provide evidence of a significant change in circumstances, such as a change in income. The court will review the financial information provided by both parties to ensure the child support amount is fair and adequate.

As far as I know, I was the only one that was asked to provide an updated financial affidavit. I live in Southern California. His $350 is a joke and I don’t care. I am concerned mostly about preventing the unsupervised visitation. (We filed for divorce in 2015. He fled to Mexico with her for a year with the assistance of his family. She is going to be 18 in 21 months. I just want to prevent a reenactment as long as I can.)

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

  1. Document Everything
    Make sure you have all the necessary documentation related to the current custody agreement, including any court orders, communication with your ex’s lawyer, and records of your ex’s lack of visitation arrangements. This documentation will be crucial if you need to present your case in court.
  2. Prepare for Court
    Since you mentioned a court date in July, it’s important to prepare thoroughly. Consider gathering evidence that supports the current custody arrangement, such as your child’s well-being under your care and any past incidents that justify supervised visitation. This will help you argue against any changes that might allow unsupervised visits.
  3. Consider Legal Assistance
    Even though you’re representing yourself, consulting with a family law attorney for advice or a one-time consultation could be beneficial. They can help you understand legal jargon and prepare for potential challenges from your ex’s lawyer.
  4. Focus on Child’s Best Interest
    In court, emphasize that your primary concern is your child’s safety and well-being. Highlight any past behavior from your ex that supports the need for supervised visitation, such as the previous incident of fleeing to Mexico.
  5. Address the Reassessment Issue
    Regarding the child support reassessment, ensure you have proof of the financial affidavit you submitted. If his lawyer claims you didn’t provide it, having a record of submission (like an email or certified mail receipt) can counter their argument.
  6. Stay Calm and Composed
    Dealing with a difficult lawyer can be stressful, but staying calm and composed will help you present your case more effectively. Focus on facts and evidence rather than getting drawn into emotional arguments.

They want to sign an agreement ASAP so we can vacate the court hearing. What do I need to do for that?

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

To vacate the July court hearing and make your temporary order permanent without getting tricked by his lawyer, you must use a specific legal document called a Stipulation and Order. Because you are representing yourself against an aggressive lawyer, you must maintain total control over the paperwork.

  1. Draft the Agreement Yourself
    Do not let his lawyer draft the agreement. Since you want the temporary order to become permanent, you do not need to write new, complex legal language. You can copy the exact text from your current temporary order. The Document Name: In Southern California, this is typically titled “Stipulation and Order to Make Existing Temporary Custody, Visitation, and Child Support Orders Permanent.” (California also offers an optional Judicial Council form for this purpose, Form FL-355, Stipulation and Order for Custody and/or Visitation of Children.) The Magic Language: Write a clear, short sentence: “The parties stipulate and agree that the Temporary Orders issued by this Court on [Date of Temporary Order] regarding legal custody, physical custody, visitation, and child support shall become the Permanent Orders of this Court.” Attach the Old Order: Physically attach a copy of your current temporary order to this new document as “Exhibit A.” State in your text: “The terms of said order, attached hereto as Exhibit A, are incorporated into this Stipulation as if fully set forth herein.” This completely eliminates the risk of his lawyer hiding “fine print” or changing the rules about supervised visits.
  2. Protect Your Specific Conditions
    If you do choose to type out the specific terms instead of attaching the old order, ensure these exact details are explicitly stated: Legal Custody: “Sole Legal Custody to Mother.” Physical Custody: “Sole Physical Custody to Mother.”
    Visitation: “Father’s visitation shall remain 100% professionally supervised at a professional visitation center, at Father’s sole expense.” (See Cal. Family Code § 3200.5 on professional supervised visitation providers.)
    Child Support: Explicitly state the amount remains $350/month, or state that the parties agree to resolve the reassessment at a later date so it doesn’t hold up this custody agreement. (Stipulated child support agreements must include certain declarations under Cal. Family Code § 4065.)
  3. How to Sign and File (The Process)
    To officially cancel (vacate) your July court date, the judge must sign your agreement. Follow these steps: Signatures: You and your ex must sign and date the Stipulation. His lawyer will also need to sign it. Filing: Take the signed document to the court clerk’s office where your case is filed. You will file it as a “Stipulation and Order.” You will pay a filing fee (unless you have an active fee waiver). The Judge’s Signature: The clerk will pass the document to your family law judge. Once the judge signs it, it becomes an official, permanent court order. (California courts consider the child’s best interest when approving custody orders under Cal. Family Code § 3011. On when a stipulated custody order is treated as a final custody determination, see Montenegro v. Diaz (2001) 26 Cal.4th 249.) Vacating the Hearing: Once the judge signs the order, the court clerk will automatically cancel the July hearing because the issues have been resolved. Do not skip your July court date until you have a copy of this document signed by the judge.
  4. Handling the Lawyer’s Push
    If his lawyer insists on drafting the document, do not sign it on the spot. Take it home. Read it line by line against your temporary order. Look out for sneaky words like “reasonable visitation” (which means unsupervised) or changes to who pays for the supervision. If anything looks different, refuse to sign it and tell them you will let the judge decide in July. Since your daughter turns 18 in 21 months, the status quo is heavily on your side.

Thank you so much for the plain language guidance!

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

I’m glad I could help! If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to reach out. Don’t hesitate to reach out whenever you need assistance!

Thank you! Have a good evening.

EsquireChamp

EsquireChamp

You’re welcome! Have a great evening, and take care!

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