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[MD] Can casino trips be deducted as a business expense for app research?

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Let me address the casino trip deduction first, then tackle the LLC structure question.

Casino trip deductions for baccarat app research:

Your plan to study Macau baccarat tables and incorporate pattern recognition into your app gives you more solid ground than pure entertainment. If you can document that you're genuinely researching game mechanics, player behavior, and table patterns specifically for app development, that's a legitimate business purpose (see 26 U.S.C. § 162, which governs the deductibility of ordinary and necessary business expenses). However, you'd still face some challenges with the IRS.

The main issue is that baccarat is a game of chance, and the IRS knows that patterns people think they see in games of chance are often illusions. If your app is designed to help users recognize patterns to gain an advantage, the IRS might view your research trips as personal gambling disguised as business research. This is the kind of situation the IRS "hobby loss" rule under 26 U.S.C. § 183 is designed to address, since it limits deductions for activities not engaged in primarily for profit. You'd need strong documentation showing what specific data you collected, how you analyzed it, and how it directly informed your app's features.

To make this work, keep detailed records of:

  • Dates and locations of casino visits
  • Specific tables or games you studied
  • Notes on what you observed and why it matters for your app
  • How the observations translated into actual app features or code
  • Receipts for travel, lodging, and meals (meals may be partially deductible)

Even with good documentation, expect scrutiny. The IRS has seen plenty of people claim gambling trips as research. If audited, you'd need to prove the primary purpose was business, not entertainment.

LLC vs. sole proprietorship for app development:

You don't need an LLC to sell apps on the App Store. Apple doesn't require it. You can operate as a sole proprietor, and your app will work just fine. The decision is really about business structure and liability protection, not about whether the App Store will accept you.

Here's what matters when deciding:

  • Liability protection: An LLC shields your personal assets if someone sues over your app. As a sole proprietor, your personal assets are exposed. If your app causes harm or gets sued, they could go after your house, car, and savings.
  • Taxes: An LLC is taxed the same way as a sole proprietorship by default (pass through taxation), so there's no tax advantage unless you elect to be taxed as a corporation, which gets complicated.
  • Credibility: Some people view an LLC as more professional, but for app development, it's not really necessary.
  • Cost and complexity: Forming an LLC costs money upfront and involves more paperwork and ongoing compliance. Maryland has formation fees and annual reporting requirements under the Maryland Limited Liability Company Act (Md. Code, Corporations and Associations, Title 4A).
  • Deductions: Both structures allow you to deduct business expenses. An LLC doesn't give you better deduction opportunities than a sole proprietorship.

My take is that if you're just starting out with one app and don't have significant assets to protect, operating as a sole proprietor is fine. You can always form an LLC later if your app business grows and you want liability protection. But if you're planning to build multiple apps and want to separate that business from your personal finances and assets, an LLC makes sense.

One more thing on the casino trip deduction: if you do form an LLC, that doesn't automatically make your casino trips deductible. The IRS cares about the actual business purpose, not what structure you use. So don't form an LLC thinking it'll help justify the deductions. The documentation and legitimate business purpose are what matter.

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I have made an app on the iPhone for learning how to count cards. I have put it in the App Store for review. If I make an LLC and put this app into the LLC could I then write off casino trips as a tax write off for being research trips or something? I plan on making more casino like apps in the future.

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I understand your interest in maximizing your tax deductions related to your app development. Have you already formed the LLC, or are you still in the process of setting it up?

I have not formed it yet

Lexi

Lexi, Chatbot

Are you currently generating any revenue from your app, or is it still in the review phase?

it is still in the review phase, I have listed it as a free app but plan to put ads in it for revenue generation in later updates

Lexi

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Is there anything else the Lawyer should know before I connect you? Rest assured they'll be able to help with your tax write-off question.

No.

TJ, Esq.

TJ, Esq.

Hello! My name is TJ, and I'm an attorney with over 20 years of experience. Thanks so much for the opportunity to assist you!

Hello TJ

TJ, Esq.

TJ, Esq.

I appreciate you giving me the full picture here. It sounds like you're thinking strategically about structuring your business, and I get why casino trips feel connected to your app development work. What state are you in? And do you have any actual casino experience yourself, or would these trips be your first time? Thanks so much for filling me in.

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I am a Maryland resident and I frequent casinos in my spare time for fun.

TJ, Esq.

TJ, Esq.

Here's the thing about deducting casino trips as business expenses: the IRS is pretty skeptical about this, especially when someone already enjoys gambling recreationally. The fact that you frequent casinos for fun in your spare time makes it harder to argue these trips are primarily for business research rather than personal entertainment.

For a deduction to work, you'd need to show the trip was ordinary and necessary for your app development business. That means you'd need documentation showing what specific research you conducted, what data you gathered, how it directly relates to your app's development, and ideally some evidence that you couldn't have gotten that information another way. Just being at a casino and playing wouldn't cut it.

The IRS looks at whether the primary purpose was business or personal. Since you're already a casual gambler, they'd likely view casino trips as personal entertainment with a thin business justification layered on top. That's a tough position to defend in an audit.

That said, there could be legitimate business expenses tied to casino research if you're genuinely studying game mechanics, user behavior, or app design elements. But those would need to be clearly separated from the entertainment aspect of your visit.

What specific aspects of casino operations or games are you planning to research for your future apps?

I would like to create a baccarat game in the future and would leverage my casino trips to attempt to provide insights into my application about ways to recognize potential patterns in the Macau tables and how those can potentially be leveraged to play the game of baccarat.

additionally would it behoove me to make my games under LLC's or is it fine to not have an LLC for apps hosted in the Apple App Store?

TJ, Esq.

TJ, Esq.

Let me address the casino trip deduction first, then tackle the LLC structure question.

Casino trip deductions for baccarat app research:

Your plan to study Macau baccarat tables and incorporate pattern recognition into your app gives you more solid ground than pure entertainment. If you can document that you're genuinely researching game mechanics, player behavior, and table patterns specifically for app development, that's a legitimate business purpose (see 26 U.S.C. § 162, which governs the deductibility of ordinary and necessary business expenses). However, you'd still face some challenges with the IRS.

The main issue is that baccarat is a game of chance, and the IRS knows that patterns people think they see in games of chance are often illusions. If your app is designed to help users recognize patterns to gain an advantage, the IRS might view your research trips as personal gambling disguised as business research. This is the kind of situation the IRS "hobby loss" rule under 26 U.S.C. § 183 is designed to address, since it limits deductions for activities not engaged in primarily for profit. You'd need strong documentation showing what specific data you collected, how you analyzed it, and how it directly informed your app's features.

To make this work, keep detailed records of:

  • Dates and locations of casino visits
  • Specific tables or games you studied
  • Notes on what you observed and why it matters for your app
  • How the observations translated into actual app features or code
  • Receipts for travel, lodging, and meals (meals may be partially deductible)

Even with good documentation, expect scrutiny. The IRS has seen plenty of people claim gambling trips as research. If audited, you'd need to prove the primary purpose was business, not entertainment.

LLC vs. sole proprietorship for app development:

You don't need an LLC to sell apps on the App Store. Apple doesn't require it. You can operate as a sole proprietor, and your app will work just fine. The decision is really about business structure and liability protection, not about whether the App Store will accept you.

Here's what matters when deciding:

  • Liability protection: An LLC shields your personal assets if someone sues over your app. As a sole proprietor, your personal assets are exposed. If your app causes harm or gets sued, they could go after your house, car, and savings.
  • Taxes: An LLC is taxed the same way as a sole proprietorship by default (pass through taxation), so there's no tax advantage unless you elect to be taxed as a corporation, which gets complicated.
  • Credibility: Some people view an LLC as more professional, but for app development, it's not really necessary.
  • Cost and complexity: Forming an LLC costs money upfront and involves more paperwork and ongoing compliance. Maryland has formation fees and annual reporting requirements under the Maryland Limited Liability Company Act (Md. Code, Corporations and Associations, Title 4A).
  • Deductions: Both structures allow you to deduct business expenses. An LLC doesn't give you better deduction opportunities than a sole proprietorship.

My take is that if you're just starting out with one app and don't have significant assets to protect, operating as a sole proprietor is fine. You can always form an LLC later if your app business grows and you want liability protection. But if you're planning to build multiple apps and want to separate that business from your personal finances and assets, an LLC makes sense.

One more thing on the casino trip deduction: if you do form an LLC, that doesn't automatically make your casino trips deductible. The IRS cares about the actual business purpose, not what structure you use. So don't form an LLC thinking it'll help justify the deductions. The documentation and legitimate business purpose are what matter.

TJ, Esq.

TJ, Esq.

Did I cover what you needed on both the deduction question and the LLC structure question, or is there something else you'd like me to clarify? Thanks so much for working through this with me.

Yes just to be clear. How likely would it be for someone to come after me in a way that having an LLC with all of its complications make sense for an app that I made in which the purpose is to teach players how to count cards using the hi-lo method and in turn leverage with blackjack strategy deviations such as I18 to play blackjack?

TJ, Esq.

TJ, Esq.

The liability risk for a card counting app is pretty low. You're teaching a legal strategy, not hacking anything or breaking laws. Casinos can refuse service to card counters, but they can't sue you for teaching the method. Your app isn't facilitating fraud or illegal activity.

Given that minimal risk, the complications of an LLC probably aren't worth it at this stage. Stick with a sole proprietorship unless your app business grows significantly and you want liability protection for other reasons.

Is there anything else I can help clarify, or are we good?

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one last question I was also thinking about maybe making a financial planning app with a disclaimer that it does not constitute financial advice and its purpose would be to provide educational and planning purposes only regarding compound interest. Features such as compound interest long term growth projections and such. Would that benefit from an LLC or is sole proprietorship fine in that situation too?

TJ, Esq.

TJ, Esq.

A financial planning app with proper disclaimers falls into similar territory. You're providing educational tools, not personalized financial advice, so the legal exposure is pretty low as long as your disclaimer is clear and you're not crossing into actual advisory territory.

An LLC still isn't necessary at this stage. The real risk would come if someone claimed your app caused them financial harm, but a solid disclaimer goes a long way in protecting you. You could always form an LLC later if you expand into actual advisory services or your app business becomes substantial.

Stick with sole proprietorship for now. It keeps things simple while you're building.

Does that wrap things up for you? Thanks again for the great questions. Feel free to reach out if you need guidance.

FRIENDLY REMINDER: If there's ever a delay in my response, please don't worry. I'll be back with you as soon as I can. Thanks again for your patience! :)

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